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Phil
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For those of us that are anxiously waiting for the 12 round trip D3 passes to become available we have found out that they are considered nearly worthless by AA employees!

They are more like our old TWA "triple EEE's."
You can go onto Jetnet under NRSA charges and see how much they cost. For example, a coast to coast standby round trip flight with a stop at any of the hubs (DFW, STL, or ORD) will cost about $275.00. I found a full fare on the same route for $318.00 on another airline my first try! Obviously these "passes" are not real passes!


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DRUMMER
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Not sure how you calculated the fare. I checked JetNet and found the D3 'Y' fare from LAX-JFK to be about $80 each way.... not too bad, really.
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The problem may be in the routing. For example, when checking PHX-MCI, Jetnet routes through DFW and the fare is $97. If I force in PHX-STL-MCI, the fare is lower. Go figure!
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Irish
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Drummer,

If you remember, when Michael Corleone told Fredo that the family was going to buy out Mo Greene, Fredo replied, "Hey Mikey. Are you sure about that?"

Well Drummer, "Are you sure about that?" You may want to look at the LAX-JFK fare again. I show the D-2 fare to be $80.75 and the D-3 fare to be $166.75 or a total, round-trip of $333.50.

Curiously, routing through STL reduces the D-3 fare to $284.88

Paul


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Dick Nicklas
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No wonder we think the agents are sometimes confused, look at us. I come up with the following and they include all extra taxes and charges:

JFK-LAX
FC ECON
D-2 80.75 18.56
D-3 166.75 91.40
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PHX-DFW-MCI
FC ECON
D-2 36.62 21.06

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Sure beats walking!


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Irish:

I agree with Dick's figures.... to the penny. I forgot one of the extra fees, but $91 vs. $80, either way, is a bargain if we ever get to add D3 pass-holders, which I'm personally not expecting.

Even though we rode free in Y class at TWA, the D2 prices are still mighty low. Nineteen bucks, coast-to-coast, in Y!

Irish, I think you're looking at the 'Trip Value' column instead of the 'cost' column. I'll check with Corleone on an appropriate response. (What is 'Trip Value', anyway?)

[ 12-20-2002: Message edited by: DRUMMER ]


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Irish
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Yep, you're right. I was looking at FC only.

Trip value? If I told you I'd have to kill you!

Actually I did query employee services about trip value. The rep told me that the figure was used to calculate "imputed income" for active employees for calculating the value of the trip. Yeah, it's Greek to me too!

Bottom line is that trip value is of no significance to retirees and should be ignored.

Alan, in five years we'll have D3's and the Corleone family will be completely legitimate.

Paul


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Paul,

Alan, in five years we'll have D3's and the Corleone family will be completely legitimate.


Do you promise.....
Carl

[ 12-20-2002: Message edited by: twaokc ]


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Irish
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I try to get out but they keep dragging me back in!
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Irish

I was talking about getting the D3's.

Carl


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Irish
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Carl,

I haven't got a clue. Merry Christmas to all you Sooner TWAers.

Paul


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That's because you as retirees are D-2. The imputed income is based on D-3 only. So if you're going to give someone a D-3, there will also be a tax on it.

Also, I really thinks it depends on where you want to go and when as far as the charges. I have always told whomever uses my D-3's that you may not be getting a great rate but if you have ample time it's better than a nonrefundable ticket.

Sue


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smilinjack
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D3 passes are the same price for FC as for Y. I always list FC for my D3's. TWA didn't have that for the EEE's

Jack


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Thanks for the info. Jack. Those of us that retired from TWA before the merge(?)date of April, 2001, ...I think that's right... don't get the same pass benefits that you do. For example, we get no D3 passes at all, plus your boarding priority as a 'real' AA retiree is higher than ours. We board after just about everyone else, including D3 pass holders. Also, when I look at the pricing for D3 passes on JetNet, there is a major difference between F, C and Y. Am I looking at the wrong data?

And, once again, thanks for such a great website and Forum for retirees!

[ 12-27-2002: Message edited by: DRUMMER ]


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quote:
Originally posted by DRUMMER:
Also, when I look at the pricing for D3 passes on JetNet, there is a major difference between F, C and Y. Am I looking at the wrong data?

DRUMMER,

Both Jack and you are correct.

D3 travel costs the same for travel in both the First Class and the main cabin on domestic flight segments.

It is a whole 'nother different story for international travel; there is a substantial cost differential between the various classes of service.


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