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Granite
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Would like to draw on the collective experience of the twr n/r's. Haven't used the system for year and a half and know that several improvements have been made. I have combed through the postings here and they have been very informative but some things still unclear. Does the rollover process from a non-boarded flight to the next flight place one ahead of another of the same priority who has checked in only for the current flight? Can't locate any info in the trip book about this but it would seem to make sense. I notice group codes and travel codes listed in the priority page but can find no reference to what they mean or how they might affect one's boarding chances. I did notice the link to N*TVLNDX and accessed the index but can't access any of the subjects in the index. Is it necessary to have access to Sabre to do this? Also is there a way for n/r's to keep track of the priority list after checking in at the airport w/o bothering an agent, or does this require Jetnet access via laptop,etc. Grateful for any info that is provided. Jack
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TWAnr
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Originally posted by Granite:
Does the rollover process from a non-boarded flight to the next flight place one ahead of another of the same priority who has checked in only for the current flight?
From having seen stand by lists over the past couple of years, it would appear that the original check in time controls the boarding priority, regardless of how many times your name may be rolled over to later flights.
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Also is there a way for n/r's to keep track of the priority list after checking in at the airport w/o bothering an agent, or does this require Jetnet access via laptop,etc. Grateful for any info that is provided.
Some airports, LAX for instance, have non rev lounges with Sabre terminals. There, you will always find traveling off duty employees with Sabre access, waiting for flights, who will be able to look up that information for you. At airports without non rev lounges, fellow non rev travelers, who have Sabre access, can look the information up for you using Sabre terminals at unused gates. It is possible that you may also be able to get such information through the non rev toll free number. As an aside, on the couple of occasions that I inquired from an agent about my placement on the list, I was told that they were not allowed to share such information with me. I don't know if that is the policy or was simply used an excuse for not having to look it up.
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Irish
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Ok! I'm really going to hurt you guys now!
My best friend, a retired TWA, Inc. captain (you know him, Granite), has a son flying as reserve captain at Commair. My friend has a Delta parent's pass that gets him into economy class with no service charge and an automatic, no-cost, space-available upgrade to business and first class.
He reports that Delta has ceiling mounted monitors at every gate, visible to all passengers, that list non-revs and their status; so they know, real time, how many have been given boarding passes and where they stand on the list. Sigh..... Oh, for the good life.
Paul
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Irish
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Jack,
If you have Jetnet available you can access Sabre topics. An example:
Let's say you want info on the AA20 positive space program.
1. Open the Trip Book
2. Click on N*TVLNDX
3. In the Index window that opens, scroll down to line 9N
4. Highlight and copy TVLAA20. Do not copy the N* that preceeds it.
5. Return to the main retiree travel page and paste in the Look Up N* Records box.
6. Click on GO and read all about AA20 travel.
Paul
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Granite
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To TWAnr and Irish, thanks very much for the info, it's quite helpful. Was able to access the tvlndx listings, don't know how useful but nice to be able to. Will be trying to get to CUN next week, so will report back on the results. Thanks again, and to any one else who might respond. Jack
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twret
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Originally posted by Granite:
Would like to draw on the collective experience of the twr n/r's. Haven't used the system for year and a half and know that several improvements have been made. I have combed through the postings here and they have been very informative but some things still unclear. Does the rollover process from a non-boarded flight to the next flight place one ahead of another of the same priority who has checked in only for the current flight? Can't locate any info in the trip book about this but it would seem to make sense. I notice group codes and travel codes listed in the priority page but can find no reference to what they mean or how they might affect one's boarding chances. I did notice the link to N*TVLNDX and accessed the index but can't access any of the subjects in the index. Is it necessary to have access to Sabre to do this? Also is there a way for n/r's to keep track of the priority list after checking in at the airport w/o bothering an agent, or does this require Jetnet access via laptop,etc. Grateful for any info that is provided. Jack
Your logged in by catorgory, in TWA retiree's it's TWR behind D1,D2,D3.....got the idea
Or as I say,Pray.......
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Irish
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All right! Let me muddy the water just a little bit.
Flight 1 to MIA departs at 0800. Flight 2 departs for MIA at 0900.
TWR non-rev A lists for flight 1 and checks in at the airport at 0600. He is not boarded for flight 1 and is automatically listed for flight 2.
TWR non-rev B lists for flight 2 and checks in from home on Jetnet at 0530.
Flight 2 has one seat left. Which TWR non-rev is boarded first.
This scenario is quite plausible and I don't know the answer.
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Granite
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Wow, haven't talked so much in 12 mo's. Thanks TWAnr, twaret, and Irish, your responses have been very useful. I did realize that our priority was w/in the TWR category, although there were several posts about being listed as D2 and boarded as D3 (would it be that were the way!) Probably the new F&F program with the TWR listing priority put an end to all that. Irish, you nailed my question about the rollover situation, but I think TWAnr has the answer, ie, whomever gets listed earliest gets the nod. It seems that the at-home check-in capability is a great bonus, however to keep your priority w/in category you might need to check in for the first flt of the day and show up for it even if there's not much chance of getting on, so that the check-in time rolls on down the schedule. Again, thanks for the responses, just one further question. I'm using dial-up, but is the Jetnet site very slow on cable/dsl also? Jack
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Irish
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Jack,
I would rate Jetnet's speed via my cable modem as only very slightly slower than other sites. Time of day makes a slight difference for me as, unlike DSL, cable speed slows as nearby cable traffic increases. I've got 1700 roofs in my FL gated community and a good percentage of them are probably using cable Internet service.
Paul
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