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Subsonic Transport
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I remember growing up underneath the ILS into Buffalo, NY. I remember seeing UA and EA DC-8's. I definitely remember the departures as those birds were screechers! I never did get a ride on one.
I wonder, which was louder, the DC-8 or the BAC-1-11 before the hush kits?
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Robert Dedman
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My vote for loudness goes to the BAC 1-11. Man, deafning.
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Subsonic Transport
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That bird was a window rattler! That's one reason I miss the NWA DC-9's around here. It is the closest thing to a noise maker. Same with the FedEx 727's. Not here anymore either.
The loudest plane we have at this point, is the DL MD90's. I just don't understand how those planes made Stage III noise abatement.
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Bob Ritchie
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Things change,
Back in the day....late 60s: Eastern Airlines called their DC-9s...."Whisper Jets." It was written right on the fuselage.
Compared to the really noisy first generation jets....the DC-9's "fanjet" engines did "whisper."
Bob
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thebear
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Back in the late 60's, I was a recent army vet working on Delta's ramp at DCA while I got my ratings and finished college. It's no contest, the BAC 111 was painful. If there was a low overcast, the noise was BEYOND painful.
The Caravelle was also screecher. It was so loud, the FA's use to make an announcement along the lines of "Don't be concerned about all the noise; it's normal."
I also have to give a nod to Piedmont's YS11A turboprops. Their ramp was directly in front of our air freight office and it's one of the reasons I say "HUH" a lot.
If my memory is right (big if), Eastern called their 727's "Whisper Jets" as well. They had an employee contest to name their wide-body fleet. An employee came up with "Whisperliner."
[ 03-03-2012, 07:09: Message edited by: thebear ]
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Subsonic Transport
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I forgot about the YS11. Airbourne Airfreight had one every night that I worked on a Burlington Express 707 loading and unloading freight. That was like having pins stuck through the ear drum. Nasty bird!
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thebear
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There was nothing louder than the afternoon Piedmont push with multiple YS 11's leaving at the same time. Couple that with their prop wash blowing trough our air freight office and you had a real swell working environment.
At the time, Piedmont still had a few Martins flying the line. It only took a trace of rain to mix with all the oil and turn the ramp area into a skating rink.
Despite all of that, it was the most fun I ever had until I started flying for TWA.
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Bob Ritchie
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Yeah I know,
The FH-227/F-27 had the same Rolls Royce turboprop engines.
With 3,870 hours of FH227/F27 time in my logbook...neither I nor any Ozark pilot who flew them for long can hear the birds sing any more.
The high pitched scream was deafening. We didn't know about hearing protection in those days...and were too young and macho to care.
Bob
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thebear
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Thanks for the link, Bob W.; brought back a lot of memories.
Bob H., I forgot Piedmont also had the FH 227. Coupled with the aforementioned YS 11's, it was a real concert.
Despite 4 years of working on the ramp, followed by 5 years of flying turboprops, I can still hear birds sing. We wore David Clark headsets AND earplugs, but I still answer phones that aren't ringing.
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