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extwacaptain
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After watching the same game many of us viewed on TV Sunday....that “teamwork” had to be impressive. One had to wonder: “What really made both teams so outstanding? Never having been much of an athlete, others can best answer that question. I would like to suggest one thought, however.....The players on each team probably enjoy “working together”...In this case playing together.

This brings us to a possible solution to eliminate the few instances mentioned recently, involving “No Fly” lists for cockpit crewmembers. Surely, we can all agree that a happy crew is a safer crew.

So, here’s the deal........Replace the “No Fly” with a “You Gotta Fly With” program.
This could be how it might work...........
1.All the good guys REQUIRED to fly together as a crew.
2.All the happy guys/ladies paired together.
3.Strong “Company-minded” pilots paired together.
4.Equal opportunity for union leaders to fly together.
5.And last but not least, those of us (We) who might have trouble determining our present (or past) appropriate “group”..... That’s easy.............

All the necessary data can be sent to Lois Lerner’s computer and she can supply the answers.

(This way, our competitors will never know our little secret to happier flying.)


signed: an ex(short term) 445........
Some of my favorite co-pilots would use that term to identify a half-as**d 890 check pilot.
[Big Grin]

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Bob Ritchie
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Sounds like fun Randy,

I must say that with 3 years of corporate flying, and over 35+ years with 3 airlines I was blessed by having great fellow crew members 96.72% of the time.

It was a great life that I would trade for no other. Would do it again in a heartbeat(if I were a kid again!)

Still having fun flying airshows in the DC-3 with an old former OZA/TWA CA that I few copilot for 42 years ago. And flying for the charity with a mix of former airline, military and general aviation guys.

Best flying today though is with my sweetheart, my kids or grandkids in our little Maule. They are the very best fellow crew.

Bob

[ 07-15-2014, 18:28: Message edited by: Bob Ritchie ]

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thebear
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The above posts reinforce something I learned from an old former sharecropper I worked with in the early 1960's: "Johnny, no job is any better than the people you work with, and the person you work directly for." My job title at that time was "Landscape Laborer" while working my way through the University of Maryland. I'm still in touch with a few of the guys who were doing the same thing, We went on to become stock brokers, electrical engineers, nuclear physicists, research biochemists, and one guy lucky enough to become a VP of Sales Engineering and later work for TWA. We all agree our college job was the both best job and the best time we ever had. Go figure.

Fortunately at TWA we had pref bidding: "1000 points fly with (employee number), or ""1000 points avoid (employee number" and that led to many enjoyable trips.

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extwacaptain
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Captain Farrell,

Really enjoyed your response. Sounds as if you made the very best of a wonderful life. Your comment concerning that college job (in the early 60s) being the best job and the best time you ever had, raises a question......Were you permitted to smile or laugh while on duty?

The reason for asking, during those same years here in LA we had a somewhat Napoleonic gentleman who would consider it necessary (his duty) to conduct a short lecture to co-pilots observed exhibiting obvious signs of happiness with being TWA pilots....Laughing out loud in uniform on company property, to him was a “No,No”. His lengthy “explanation” would include listing any and all of his thoughts for improvements in our present working agreement with our company....And, made it very plain that any display of happiness on our part would be interpreted by management as an indication of no need for change.

Co-pilots, being slightly resourceful, just found others to laugh with, or at...That wasn’t too tough to do.

Captain, it is a pleasure to have shared your story and have flown for the same airline.

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thebear
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Randy, thank you for the promotion. I didn't make Captain until I flew a Citation after furlough. I retired on furlough, and still consider myself very lucky.

To answer your question, sir, we laughed our asses off while working. The guy who owned the company paid us in cash every Friday afternoon. He'd shake hands with us, and say: "Thank you for the good job you did." We'd say: "Thanks for the job ." ,and we meant it. When I got drafted into the army in '66, my boss called my Mom once a month to see if she needed anything. Try to find a boss like that.

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extwacaptain
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Captain John,

You deserve the promotion for another great story!

There are those who might have some difficulty believing this, but I, too, did have a few bosses at TWA who, in my mind, were placed on a rather high pedestal. Some (in those days) were called “Chief Pilots”. In later years, even tho the names and title changed to Manager of Flying, I could not have asked for finer people to guide my airline career.

Admittedly, although some of them may have, at times, found me to be a bit of a “pain in the butt” to have around, they seemed to take that in stride. Several confided in private that they often thought of themselves as “High Paid Babysitters". Looking back, that comment might well have been inspired by my presence in their domicile.

In any event..........This topic is an attempt to encourage more true-life, interesting stories from our members of Smilin Jack’s board...We cannot bring back TWA, but every employee and every loyal passenger probably has positive memories, which if shared, would bring joy to us all.

signed:
a proud to be “company-man”
(who does not accept the fuel-tank “probable cause” theory.)

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extwacaptain
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Only due to the overwhelming interest in this topic, (and lack of new subject matter) is the following offered:

It’s about one of those unforgettable bosses and members of TWA’s management who excelled in turning young, impressionable employees into, shall we say: “Happy Campers”.

We first met in the late 40s in LA. His position then was titled “pilot/dispatcher”. In 1956 he was chief pilot in Detroit during a period of increased captain check-out training. His name..Captain Robert Mueller...(a Randolph Field graduate, I believe class of 37)

Although there was one rather famous member (Ensign George Gay) in our group of about 6 student captains, Captain Mueller treated us all the same......Aware that we were away from our home domicile, he offered the use of his apartment and brand new car during the weekends on which he commuted to Los Angeles..(should any of our group have visitors from home.)

At the conclusion of the check-out program, we were invited to be his guests for an evening in the exciting town of Ypsilanti. (And, did we accept? Oh, yeah. We all know how pilots
enjoy those free meals.) An unexpected and appreciated gesture.

Fast forward about nine years.........My wife, Sally informs me that she had just received a beautiful bouquet of roses from a friend of mine. After a few "Who from's"...Sure enough...That same Captain Robert Mueller, now Chief Pilot/Manager of Flying, LAX., thanking her for sharing me with TWA for whatever number of past years.

Yep....When it comes to having had the finest bosses over the years .....if flying had been a pinochle game, the dealer just kept dealing me Aces and a full house.

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Charlie Jennings
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Would someone with a great memory refresh my lame memory with the name of the Chief Pilot (GMF) in Detroit in 1966 - 1967, after which I will post an amusing (to me) story. His first name was Sam.
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