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Posted by Capn Eddie Ricketyback (Member # 3010) on :
 
I suppose this had to happen, but it doesn't look like it will any time soon. According to THIS ARTICLE, it won't happen before 2030, so most of us won't be around to see it.

Don't know whether to laugh or cry.
 
Posted by Irish (Member # 722) on :
 
Some people have way too much time on their hands! I guess this daydreaming is what NASA does since Obama gutted their space program.
 
Posted by Bob Willcutts (Member # 434) on :
 
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The international aviation system has reached unmatched levels of safety and reliability, in part because of greater automation and a widely accepted global standard for cockpit behavior and cooperation.
Perhaps these levels are "unmatched" but they are still TOO HIGH!

I wonder what the pay ratio will be for the "ground pounder" sitting at a computer at home watching the Patriots game!
 
Posted by Dick Nicklas (Member # 934) on :
 
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Originally posted by Irish:
Some people have way too much time on their hands! I guess this daydreaming is what NASA does since Obama gutted their space program.

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Obama can't win, if he doesn't trim the budget he gets accused of overspending and if he does he trims someone's sacred cow.

I'd much rather have the money spent on NexGen and be able to fly safely when I do fly or on our highways and be able to drive safely when I do drive than on somebody's space adventure.

Maybe, if we are ever able to pay off Bush's Iraq Odyssey we can afford to go to Mars but it's not on my "to do" list.
 
Posted by extwacaptain (Member # 381) on :
 
We should not forget that we were only promised to be able to “keep our doctor”. There was no mention of maintaining two seats in every airliner cockpit.

Memory will remind us all that cockpit crews have varied from one dashing gentleman with helmet and goggles and mustache in an open cockpit plane to the two man crew, the three man crew, the four man crew (a little “feather-bedding” during the early jet age). It would appear that the two pilot crew seems to have been rather successful and the choice of many airlines. There’s that old saying: “If it works, don’t (you know what)”.

For the record, the one pilot crew actually did exist on a few occasions many, many years ago. during which, although two individuals were physically present in a plane’s cockpit, one was treated as completely useless and unnecessary. A few of our “Old-Timers” truly believed a co-pilot’s purpose in life was to reduce the captain’s take home pay.

Thankfully, TWA had an unwritten policy.........”If you like your copilot, you can keep your copilot.”
and the same policy (promise) applied..........If you like your captain, you can keep your captain.

Our airline was pretty good about keeping their promises, Mr. Gruber‘

signed:
completely spoiled by the three pilot crew,
Randy Kramer
 
Posted by Capn Eddie Ricketyback (Member # 3010) on :
 
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Originally posted by extwacaptain:
A few of our “Old-Timers” truly believed a co-pilot’s purpose in life was to reduce the captain’s take home pay.

Haha. There were still a couple of those left by the time I became a copilot, and it seemed like I had the "pleasure" of flying with more than my share of them.
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Originally posted by extwacaptain:
Thankfully, TWA had an unwritten policy.........”If you like your copilot, you can keep your copilot.”

By the time I became a captain, of course, I would like to have had the opposite option on a few occasions, but didn't want to inflict my problems on an innocent captain.
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Originally posted by extwacaptain:
and the same policy (promise) applied..........If you like your captain, you can keep your captain.

Why am I reminded of the old saying, "Sometimes I think the biggest jerk in the airline is the guy in the other seat, whichever seat I happen to be occupying at the time."
 
Posted by Robert Dedman (Member # 366) on :
 
I can remember when in Europe, the De Havilland Rapide was used on short flights with only one pilot because there was only one seat, right up front. Have flown in ours here in Virginia Beach and we carry 7 pax, nice airplane. I still like three men as said by Capt. Kramer, makes you feel warm inside and I am grateful.
I have added this Christmas song for all to enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ooc5eJc5SHA
 
Posted by Bob Ritchie (Member # 1035) on :
 
"I cannot blow the whistle...I cannot ring the bell...but let this damned thing jump the tracks...and guess who catches hell"?
 
Posted by Subsonic Transport (Member # 2139) on :
 
How would they handle one pilot ops on ultra long haul flights. Will the single pilot be allowed to operate 3 on and 3 off while crossing the Pacific? Isn't that CIA torture?

Maybe they'll just skip single pilot ops and go straight for a drone type ops. No one in the cockpit and somebody in a dark room on the ground observing. "Hey Al, I think my plane just crashed."
 
Posted by extwacaptain (Member # 381) on :
 
After a little thought, maybe we should give this "one-pilot airliner crew thing" more consideration. Just think of it....Always first choice of crew meals and whenever there's a manual landing, guess who gets to slick it on. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Robert Dedman (Member # 366) on :
 
Good thinking Captain Kramer. There is always a bright side!!
 




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