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Posted by TWA Fan 1 (Member # 1926) on :
 
From the NY Observer.

Very in-depth and poignant article about 9/11. Quite critical of AMR's response to 9/11.

http://www.nyobserver.com/pages/frontpage1.asp
 
Posted by AAflyingbrian67 (Member # 2419) on :
 
It is something I want to forget but deep down we should never ever forget............

I was based in Boston for 8 years and use to fly flight 11 all the time. I knew 6 of those crew members very well. The Captin was a great man named John who use to always buy the crews beers in the pub at the hotel layover...

I sometime look at that day and think that all this fighting between AA-TWA is so sad. Do we really have a grasp on what is going on out there? That we are luck to be alive and that we did not have to go through the hell that these crews went through?

Brian
 
Posted by TWA Fan 1 (Member # 1926) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AAflyingbrian67:
Do we really have a grasp on what is going on out there? That we are luck to be alive and that we did not have to go through the hell that these crews went through?

Brian

Let's hope no one ever has to go through that horror ever again.
 
Posted by chrispy (Member # 2242) on :
 
Not sure why the infighting between TWA and AA should even be included in this thread ?

The 9/11 tragedy was, just that...a tragedy.
Lives were lost and IMHO, the world is a different place because of it...which is sad.

The infighting between AA/TWA was because AA's unions who represent all the union employees on the property felt that the TWA employees didn't deserve credit for their years of service or their abilities. They were mocked, "Kmart pilots vs Saks 5th Avenue pilots". It didn't matter to the unions and the union employees that they represent that TWA brought routes and equipment to the new airline. But, IMHO, to include this in a post about 9/11 baffles me.

Tragedy vs Greed. I don't see any reason to water down this tragedy with the internal strife at AA.

At least the world is actively hunting down the culprits of this tragedy...and hopefully justice will be swift and sound...for the sake of the families.
 
Posted by AAflyingbrian67 (Member # 2419) on :
 
Chrispy-
I am sorry I did not check with you before I wrote my comments. Next time I will make sure its ok with you what I write.
You are a broken record! We all know on the web site that you are upset! If you feel you need to take it out on someone who has always said TWA employees got the bad end of the stick then go ahead!

Brian
 
Posted by B-757-200 (Member # 430) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TWA Fan 1:
Very in-depth and poignant article about 9/11. Quite critical of AMR's response to 9/11.

Including criticism for layong off 20,000 of TWA's employees instead of their own?

Funny how AA employees don't realize that without the TWA buyout, thousands of their own employees would have been layed off instead of TWA's. Over 2500 AA pilots (instead of just 900) and over 5000 AA F/As (instead of under 1200).

Junior AA people should thank their lucky stars.
 
Posted by AAflyingbrian67 (Member # 2419) on :
 
I think most junior employees are very aware about TWA saving their butts from the streets.

Brian
 
Posted by chrispy (Member # 2242) on :
 
Brian,

Do you honestly think the junior AA pilots are aware that their jobs were saved, or are you smoking crack.

I've had more of them tell me, be lucky you are furloughed from AA then I can shake a stick at. Yeah, they're aware that our seats saved their jobs...and the moon is made of provolone cheese.

Sorry you can't take criticism..since that's the case try another MB. Maybe Better Homes and Gardens.
 
Posted by AAflyingbrian67 (Member # 2419) on :
 
I am not going to go to your level. I am better then that. I cannot speak for pilots! I am not one. All I can tell you is what I see from a Flight Attendant view. Enough said!

Brian
 
Posted by B-757-200 (Member # 430) on :
 
I believe you, Brian, but I've heard from colleagues still flying out of STL that many AA F/As will feel the need to justify stapling all 100% of TWA's 4400 F/As, which caused them ALL to be furloughed/fired. There is no educating some people. They just don't have a realistic perspective.
 




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